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You can now share systems with other Bet Labs members. By clicking on the Think Tank button from the Bet Labs Home page, you will be able to see all shared systems.

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asked 03 Mar, 13:11

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First of all, I apologize if my english isn't good, I am not an english speaker.

I tend to agree with smartplays11, there are some shared systems in thinktank that are everything but useful. A system has to have a logic in my opinion. I don't think it's profitable in long term to bet, for example, on teams that have between 47% and 58% win/loss %, on Tuesday's games (don't if it works, it's an example). There's no logic in it, and even if it has been a winning in the past years, there's no guarantee it will work in the future because there is no logic in it. The best way to use betlabs, in my opinion, is to find some logical systems, based on facts, and add easy filter like home/visitor, favorite/dog, etc... I don't want a system to win 20units a year, I want logical systems that have a logic behind them, that win a bit less, but in which I have no doubt betting on.

For example, in NBA spread game : 1, 2 or 3 ats losses streak Against 1 ats win streak Visiting team Last game dog

Record 340-231, +92.70units, ROI 16.2%

Some systems in thinktank are good bases that just need one or two filters more to be efficient for me, with far less bets, but a better ROI.

But some are absolute non-sense in my opinion, because they are just built to find the best record and the best ROI without any logic behind.

I think the bookies know that they can't win in every game situation, and they are some situations where they have accepted to lose a bit pf money, because they can't cover all situations. I believe betlabs is the best tool to find this bookies accpeted losing situations.

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answered 07 Mar, 12:09

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Great idea ! I just shared a few myself . Happy to participate!

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answered 03 Mar, 19:59

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Awesome, Thanks for putting in place!

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answered 04 Mar, 07:56

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Thanks for sharing systems. We're also looking for feedback on how to improve the Think Tank. Post your feedback here.

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answered 04 Mar, 09:57

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Great work, thanks!

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answered 04 Mar, 15:33

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Can you post this system in the Think Tank?

http://www.sportsinsights.com/blog/bet-sharp-march-madness

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answered 05 Mar, 04:53

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That system has already been added to the Bet Labs Think Tank and can be found under the title, " Conf Tourney, 8+ Dogs in Low Scoring Games."

(05 Mar, 12:32) si-david

Think Tank is a great idea.

I see many systems that are just plain awful. Lots of back fitting, one good year and many losing years (the good year is this year, as the system is hopelessly back fired).

It is apparent that many don't know how to make a successful system. I would urge those people to look at the systems that are profitable every year or close to it. Does the system make sense?? Cherry picking profitable ML amounts or randomly selecting win/loss streaks is not how a system is made. Finding random spread percentages isn't either, especially when the results are up and down.

You should first start with a premise. Home/Away, dog/fav. From there use various filters. Days between games, win streaks, win/loss last game, previous home/away or previous home/fav. Win percentage, ats percentages.

Totals same thing. Spread ranges, etc...

You need to create a system you would be confident betting on. Finding random filters, with inconsistent results....is that what you want to wager on??

There are several good systems in the think tank, you just have to sift through the lousy ones to find them. Happy Hunting.

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answered 06 Mar, 19:21

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I'd like to echo the sentiments of the previous poster smartplays1127 -- it's very important to have a theory guiding your betting system and to make sure that you're not custom fitting the data. In fact, I would recommend everybody read the article, "3 Common Characteristics of Winning Betting Systems" which you can find here: http://www.sportsinsights.com/blog/3-characteristics-of-winning-betting-systems

If a system has one highly profitable season from several years ago and stagnant returns since then, it's likely that oddsmakers have already adapted and it would not be advisable to bet that system.

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answered 06 Mar, 19:26

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David, I'm done with the think tank. I'll let others, that obviously are much smarter than the rest of us, show us all how its done.

Who knows, they may actually post a useful system.

I've made a lot of money using systems I've created on bet labs, but apparently, unless you have thousands of examples, its worthless. I've even been told by the resident mathematician that I will lose going forward.

I've made over 100 systems, yet this guy can evaluate my entire portfolio based on 6. Brilliant. I've had one book shut me down in less than 3 months, but my systems are worthless.

(07 Mar, 03:23) smartplays1127

Si-David,

I hope I didn't sound too harsh, but I really wanted to drive the point home. I have spent over 100 hours creating systems, refining them, etc.. and it takes a lot of work. This isn't a magic software that can create profits with little work. You need to put in the time, think about your premise, and go from there. There are no short cuts, which by looking at some systems people are doing.

I have shared several systems in Think Tank and other community threads. They have been doing very well and I am proud of the work I have put in. Its a labor of love, and when you love to do something and have a passion for it, its less of a grind.

I may post a few more, but the Think Tank isn't a place to show up and create a successful portfolio while others do the work. Its a place to get some ideas on what truly works, and is a place to help stimulate creativity in those having troubles coming up with systems themselves.

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answered 06 Mar, 19:34

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Thanks for the comments SmartPlays11 what you have said is true there are some over-fitted cherry picked systems that will probably not be predictive of future success in the think tank. When we came up with the idea of the think tank the goal was to make everyone who uses Bet Labs a better betting analyst. Really that has always been the vision of Sports Insights. The way we thought we could do this is to have a healthy discussion on what is or is not a good system. When people like you provide feedback on a system we want that to help the newer users learn about system creation, back testing, and all the other things necessary to be a long-term successful bettor. We are also providing our feedback on system so people can learn and grow. That is what will lead to long term betting success.

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answered 06 Mar, 19:58

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